Chatter is a weekly podcast, produced by Goat Rodeo and Lawfare. In this episode, host David Priess talked to Lisa Maddox, former CIA analyst and manager of analysts. They discuss how she turned her intelligence experience into a career as a professional genealogist, her entry into the national security world, the research, analytic, and presentational aspects of intelligence analysis, how the elements of analysis apply to genealogical work; and more.

Speaking with the Washington Post’s Shane Harris, Joe Weisberg shares his journey from the CIA to Hollywood, how he created an award winning series in The Americans and his new book Russia Upside Down: An Exit Strategy for the Second Cold War.